16" backgeared Cinci

[DaveH]

Works - that the main thing

DaveH

[dallen]

Dave, your right about it working being the main thing, I got this machine off of an old guy that had it sitting in a pasture covered up with a rat eaten plastic tarp, it had been sitting there for like 4 years the thing that totally supprised me was non of the slides were froze up with rust. Granted I didn't help its condition by letting it sit in my drive way for as long as I did, but it wasn't until this summer that I ended up with a power source that would run it. I know the 5 HP gas engine is probably on the slow side as the electric motor that was on it when I brought it home is rated at 1750 RPM, but I have lots of time for it to do its thing.

Now to get off of here and go pull the intermediate shaft out so I can fit a set collar on it to stop it from sliding sideways.

[DaveH]

I thought the 5HP gas engine shows great ingenuity

DaveH

[dallen]

Dave thanks for the

it works is all I can say probably not at full capacity of the shaper but at least I can use it instead of looking at it for the next three years, and the gas engine is 2 HP bigger then the 3 PH electric motor I took off of it.

most of the pictures are up in the casting thread I have on making parts for the old gal

DA

[dallen]

Sorta bring those that are interested in this project up to date.

In my quest to find a photo that shows the ratchet mech. in all its glory I ran into the Cincinnati Incorporated website, original makers of the shaper way back in the early 20 century around 1910 under the name of Cincinnati Shaper company, in Cincinnati Ohio.

So I sent them and email and ask if they had a photo that I might be able to look at that would show the table feed mech well enough that I could make one that would resemble it.

In a reply to my email I was told that I might be able to find a copy of the manual on Ebay for around 50 dollars, now I think thats a little steep for a guy that just wants to look at a photo. The guy that sent me the email also informed me that they still sold parts for the shaper so I sent him a picture of what I had made and ask if they had one.

Here's were it gets good, I received an Email from a guy in parts, saying that they needed the Serial Number, so I go get the number off the machine all four digits of it 6384 and sent it to him, he responds saying that its suppose to be 5 digits and tells me where to look, so I go look where he said and take a picture of the number its still the same four digits and sent it to him. He replied that the machine wasn't made by them

Co I sent him a picture of the door on the shaper which plainly says



guess it was made before the factory burned down and they rebuild and made major changes to the shaper line. Which is about when I think they came out with the more versatile Universal Shapers which have tables that can be rotated to either side and have a drive shaft that operates the table feed, not sure about when that actually happened thou.

DA

[Mayhem]

Interesting story. Doesn't help you much but interesting none the less.

[stevec]

DA, I'm enjoying this thread although I find it a bit challenging to understand.
I'm waiting for the reply from the guy in parts to your e-mail with the pic of the door.

[dallen]

don't think thats going to happen Steve.

[dallen]

made a boring bar for the shaper and did a little practice keyway cutting, found out that its easier to do the cutting in the groove on the return stroke, now if I can get the bit to stop sliding up in the bar while cutting.



now if I could just find my smooth and shiny inserts I'd be doing pretty good

DA

[dallen]

I've done a lot of work on this old gal, had a lot of fun doing it and learned somethings about pattern making, casting and machining that I didn't before I started working on it.

I'm not done, this machine was originally setup to run off of a lineshaft, but there is no lineshaft in my backyard but the shaper still has the old 3 step flat belt pulley on it. This is something that I want to change to a pulley that has just one flat for the belt to run on.

Here is a screen capture of what I am hoping to do, it still has to have some gussets added, THIS is a starting point to let me know what I will be getting into making the actual pattern.

It will be a split two piece pattern with the split going thru the solid web, i am thinking that a thickness of .5 inches will be plenty which will let me use .250 inches plywood.

Anyway here is a start of what I am hoping to do, I'll start a thread in the Welding and Casting section on this and we'll see how good a pattern maker I've turned into.