Can a vise be too big?
#1
For my Rockwell mill (table size about 6 x 26), I was looking for a 4" Kurt, with a swivel base. The only thing I came up with (at a price I could afford) was a 5". I have it mounted, and it's a monster! Should I continue my search for a 4, or will I be happier with the extra heft of the 5? Remember that the Rockwell is a medium duty (compared to a BP) and so I won't really be doing anything that I would figure would be too much for either vise. 17428

BTW, if anybody has a 4 on a swivel and wants to move up, let's talk!
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I put a 6 inch Vertex vise on my RF45 clone and like my 10 inch rotary table it is a little big but it is very rigid and I am pleased at how well it works. It looks like a monster on the machine but every cut I make looks better than on the vise I was using before so as long as you have room above the vise for the parts you are working on and the tooling I think it's not a problem. At least thats my opinion!!! tom
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Like Tom, I also have an RF45 clone mill that has a table size of roughly 9 x 32. I first bought a 4" vise with the swivel base, I've never used the swivel base, but I ran into some situations where the 4" could not open wide enough for the project I was working on so I bought a 5" vise without the swivel base. The 5" is a good size for an RF45 type mill but when Enco had free shipping on all of their vises and a 20% off special going, I bit the bullet and bought a 6" Kurt vise knowing I planned on getting a larger mill in the future. The Kurt fits on the table of my mill but then a 9 x 32 table is almost as large as some BP mill tables.

Enco has a 4" with swivel base.

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTP...A=425-7241

Have you thought of getting a screwless vise? I have one and use it when I'm working on smaller items.

Ed


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(09-07-2012, 10:52 AM)EdK Wrote: .... but I ran into some situations where the 4" could not open wide enough for the project I was working on

I've run into the same thing with my 4" vice as well Ed. But I just swapped the jaws to the outside of the vice blocks. If your part isn't too tall you can get away with it. Big Grin

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Willie
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(09-07-2012, 11:27 AM)Highpower Wrote: I've run into the same thing with my 4" vice as well Ed. But I just swapped the jaws to the outside of the vice blocks. If your part isn't too tall you can get away with it. Big Grin

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I can't see the picture because my work place blocks it but I'm pretty sure I know what it is of. I've since learned that trick also.

Ed
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Wa, I'd stick with the 5" and you might want to consider the need for the swivel base.
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Steve, I have the swivel base.

To all of you, thanks. I'll work with it, and see how it goes.
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Sorry Wa, what I meant was you might want to consider NOT using the swivel base, it eats up vertical capacity and I could count on the remaining fingers of one hand the times I have used it. Chin
The number of times I've had to remove it to get extra height capability exceed all my digits. So mines gone. Just my experience.Angel
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(09-07-2012, 11:27 AM)Highpower Wrote:
(09-07-2012, 10:52 AM)EdK Wrote: .... but I ran into some situations where the 4" could not open wide enough for the project I was working on

I've run into the same thing with my 4" vice as well Ed. But I just swapped the jaws to the outside of the vice blocks. If your part isn't too tall you can get away with it. Big Grin

[Image: th_4in6inKurt.jpg]

Willie,

Now that I'm home and can see the picture, is that a rare 4" Kurt vise you have there?

Ed
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Micktoon has a 6 inch vice for me
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