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RE: Flat wrenches - EdK - 09-27-2012
(09-27-2012, 07:10 AM)stevec Wrote: This is probably machining heresy and/or suicidal but I have shaped rounded ends on rectangular parts by drilling a hole in the centre of the end for a pivot pin which is held in the mill vise. Feed the vise toward the end mill and turn the part with your other hand. Take small cuts and DO NOT CLIMB CUT! Start at the apex of the corner you want to round off so as not to cut too deep as you're arcing the part into the side of the endmill. once the radius is done to your liking back off and flip the part over for the other side, If the part isn't long enough to be safely held by hand , hold it with vise grip pliers the added landth gives mechanical advantage and better control.
A better pivot pin would be one threaded for a lock nut to keep the part from lifting.
For large radii I rough cut excess metal off on the bandsaw to reduce milling time.
Steve,
That's a commonly used technique and certainly not heresy. Another tip is to add stops so you don't overshoot your arc.
Now that you mention using your bandsaw to cut off the excess, that's what I did with the small wrenches I made. Then I hand filed the OD radius at the business end of the wrench.
Ed
RE: Flat wrenches - Wawoodman - 09-27-2012
(09-26-2012, 09:30 PM)TomG Wrote: Mike,
If you are going to the trouble of making a tool, go the extra mile and harden it. It'll hold up better for its intended use and it won't get all beat up from getting knocked around. You can either make it out of O1 to begin with and then harden and temper it with a torch, or you can save some money and make it out of mild steel and case harden it afterward. Either way you'll end up with a much nicer tool.
Tom
Tom,
Details, please! By "mild steel" is there a specific number you mean? I use Online Metals for supply, since they are 10 minutes from me. And how do I case harden?
Oh, joy! New things to learn!
RE: Flat wrenches - TomG - 09-27-2012
(09-27-2012, 09:32 AM)Wawoodman Wrote:(09-26-2012, 09:30 PM)TomG Wrote: Mike,
If you are going to the trouble of making a tool, go the extra mile and harden it. It'll hold up better for its intended use and it won't get all beat up from getting knocked around. You can either make it out of O1 to begin with and then harden and temper it with a torch, or you can save some money and make it out of mild steel and case harden it afterward. Either way you'll end up with a much nicer tool.
Tom
Tom,
Details, please! By "mild steel" is there a specific number you mean? I use Online Metals for supply, since they are 10 minutes from me. And how do I case harden?
Oh, joy! New things to learn!
Mild steel is anything that contains too little carbon to harden on its own, 1018 is a good example. To case harden, you heat the part to a dull red and dip it in a carburizing compound (Kasenit is a common brand) then re-heat it to a cherry red color and hold the temp for a few minutes to allow the carbon to soak in, then water quench. The cherry red is the key here (around 1400ยบ). Overheating can warp or damage the tool. Another good way to check for the proper temp is to use a magnet. Mild steel becomes non-magnetic at the critical stage.
Case hardening works well for tools because only the surface gets hard. The tool gets strong and durable but it doesn't get brittle.
Tom
RE: Flat wrenches - SnailPowered - 09-27-2012
Why not make the wrench just have a hex like a big nut? That seems like it would be easier and I think it would still look good. Just a thought.
RE: Flat wrenches - EdK - 09-27-2012
(09-27-2012, 11:13 AM)SnailPowered Wrote: Why not make the wrench just have a hex like a big nut? That seems like it would be easier and I think it would still look good. Just a thought.
I'm not sure I quite follow what you're saying but these wrenches are for a wood router which typically needs two wrenches to tighten and loosen the collet nut. One wrench to hold the spindle from turning and one on the collet nut. They need to be fairly thin because you don't have a lot of room in a router to get the wrenches in there to do their job.
Clear as mud?
Ed
RE: Flat wrenches - SnailPowered - 09-27-2012
I don't mean to use a nut for the wrench, I mean to have a hex shape where it would normally be rounded (you would have three flats on each side instead of a radius). Sorry, I guess I was clear as mud
RE: Flat wrenches - EdK - 09-27-2012
(09-27-2012, 11:40 AM)SnailPowered Wrote: I don't mean to use a nut for the wrench, I mean to have a hex shape where it would normally be rounded (you would have three flats on each side instead of a radius). Sorry, I guess I was clear as mud
Ah, OK, now I think I know what you're saying. Like one of the top two in the image rather than the bottom one which is rounded.
Ed
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RE: Flat wrenches - dallen - 09-27-2012
carbide cutters and old lawn mower blades
RE: Flat wrenches - EdK - 09-27-2012
(09-27-2012, 11:55 AM)dallen Wrote: carbide cutters and old lawn mower blades
David,
Now that's a great use for old lawn mower blades. Thanks for that tip!
Ed
RE: Flat wrenches - SnailPowered - 09-27-2012
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking Ed. The top one is basically what I had in mind, the second one I would end up hurting myself with
Thanks!