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James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - craynerd - 12-30-2015 Not stricktly a clock but Orrerys are certainly made by clockmakers as it is similar design and techniques. Hope this project is ok in here and please delete if not. I've not done any big projects for a few years now due to moving house and getting my machines in shape. I've currently got a clock build on the go which I will go back and complete but I wanted a new project for the new workshop and something a little different. I came across the concept of James Ferguson's (1710-1776) mechanical paradox several years ago and it took my attention. It is quite amazing to watch - turn the thick wheel and one of the thin wheels goes forward, one backwards, and one goes no way at all! Original plans: The story is also nice as well... Quote from John Millburn Quote:One evening Ferguson went to a weekly gathering (probably a dining or drinking club), where one of the other people present, a watchmaker, 'began to hold forth against a Trinity of persons in the God-head, wondering at the impudence of the person who broached such an absurd doctrine'. Ferguson, who was sitting just opposite to him, 'gave him a severe frowning look', whereupon the watchmaker asked his opinion concerning the Trinity. Ferguson suggested that they should talk about the watchmaker's business instead, and asked him whether he understood how one gear wheel turned another. 'I hope I do, said he'. You can google the way it works, basically the three wheels on the same axis have different tooth counts to create the paradox. This also doubles as an orrery which is surprisingly accurate. The error for the precession of the nodes is about 40 days out of 6793 and the error of the period of the apogee is about 20 days out of 3233. There are a few builds online. A few plans for wooden sets but nothing for metal though there are three builds I have seen which are reasonably well described. I do intend to make plans for this at the end if it works. I have been hugely inspired by Clickspring over the last months and I have tried to improve my video shots and narration. It isn't even in the same league but I'm reasonably happy with some of the shots even if my narration isn't particularly good. I also appreciate I am not a trained machines or engineer in any form so if anyone can provide improvements or corrections to my methods, I'd be happy to hear. Hope that wasn't too bad. Chris RE: James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - arvidj - 12-30-2015 Have you seen these articles? Digital Machinist ... Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery -- Part One James Donnelly Hobby DM Vol. 4 No. 3 Fall 2009 Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery, Part Three" Chris Wood Hobby DM Vol. 4 No. 4 Winter 2009 Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery, Part Two" James Donnelly Hobby DM Vol. 4 No. 4 Winter 2009 Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery, Part Three" James Donnelly Hobby DM Vol. 5 No. 1 Spring 2010 RE: James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - craynerd - 12-30-2015 No, I have seen the horological journal articles by James Donnelly which I guess are similar but I'd love to see the DM articles. RE: James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - craynerd - 01-09-2016 Part 2 - Wheel Collets RE: James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - Sunset Machine - 01-09-2016 This looks like a great project for the coffee table. Keep posting, please! RE: James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - craynerd - 04-08-2016 RE: James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - craynerd - 04-08-2016 RE: James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - TomG - 04-08-2016 Thanks for sharing the progress. That's an interesting concept of sharing three gears of different tooth counts with one pinion. I assume the variation in mesh is too small to matter? I suppose if it was, you could have beveled the gears slightly to accommodate it. Is the gear tooth form cycloidal? Tom RE: James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - Sunset Machine - 04-08-2016 It's beyond comprehension! I better watch the vids.. RE: James Fergusons Mechanical Paradox Orrery - DaveH - 04-08-2016 Very nice Chris Great work on the gears DaveH |