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I screw up sometimes too. Twice... - aametalmaster - 03-31-2012
I have a simple project that i have redone twice and tomorrow will be the 3rd time. I am making a chuck backplate with an odd thread. No biggie as i have done backplates before. My first screw up was not using my thread gauge at the start of the thread. I have never been wrong before so why check? Because you are supposed to. Yup my threads were off 6 TPI and it wouldn't fit. My SBL needed a gear changed around to cut the bigger pitch threads and i missed that. So i cut plate #2 got my gear swapped and started threading. Yup checked the start with a thread gauge and it was perfect. About 2/3 of the way thru i saw the threads weren't going to be pointed and i am almost at full depth. Now what did i screw up? Checked all of my measurements and they were spot on. So i went back to the tap drill chart i have already used a zillion times before and yup the same measurement.
http://www.newmantools.com/tapdrill.htm#callink It says on the page to use .500 for 1/2" instead of a fraction so my threads are 2 1/4 so i used 2.250 Boy was that a mistake. If i punch in 2 1/4 6 it comes out 1.84 and if i use 2.250 6 it comes out 2.088 which i used and it was to big of a bore. Now if i had done it old school like i was taught and read my Starrett centering gauge and doubled the 6 tpi depth and subtracted the final OD it sure would have been closer to what the bore should have been. Oh well back to the lathe and welder and the lathe again...Bob
RE: I screw up sometimes too. Twice... - ScrapMetal - 03-31-2012
(03-31-2012, 09:36 PM)aametalmaster Wrote: It says on the page to use .500 for 1/2" instead of a fraction so my threads are 2 1/4 so i used 2.250 Boy was that a mistake. If i punch in 2 1/4 6 it comes out 1.84 and if i use 2.250 6 it comes out 2.088 which i used and it was to big of a bore.
Bob,
You're still a couple steps up on me as I still don't quite understand where you went wrong. Granted, I went to public school but last I checked 2 1/4 was the same as 2.250. What am I missing (Don't ask my wife that, I think she has a list.
)-Ron
RE: I screw up sometimes too. Twice... - aametalmaster - 04-01-2012
Yes it sure is the same but when i run both numbers i get two different answers. It must be their program and the way its written...Bob
RE: I screw up sometimes too. Twice... - EdK - 04-01-2012
Bob,
Been there, done that. It took me three tries to make a simple mounting post for a friends QCTP. In my defense, it was the first time I had cut threads on a new lathe I had just gotten set up. The first time I had the 29.5 degree angle wrong so the thread ended up looking like a saw tooth instead of a 'V'. I don't remember what I screwed up the second time but the third time was a charm, as they say.
Ed
RE: I screw up sometimes too. Twice... - DaveH - 04-01-2012
Bob,
Mmmmm ......... that is not so good, the trouble is now will you ever trust it again?
DaveH
RE: I screw up sometimes too. Twice... - aametalmaster - 04-01-2012
It has to work this time i am out of 3" round bar :) But i do have 4", 5" and lots of 6" i can wack on LOL. I cut off the old weld in the lathe and now i am heading to the shop to weld on a new rough bored nub. As soon as it cools i will start over...Bob