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Homemade Penetrating Oil - EdK - 12-19-2012
I don't know if this has been posted before but here it is.
Ed
"Machinist's Workshop" recently published information
on various penetrating oils. The magazine reports they
tested these products for "break out torque" on rusted nuts
and bolts.
A subjective test was made of popular penetrating oils,
with the unit of merit being the torque required to remove
the nut from a "scientifically rusted" bolt.
Average torque load to loosen nut:
No Oil used ........................ 516 foot pounds
WD-40 ..................... ........ 238 foot pounds
PB Blaster ......................... 214 foot pounds
Liquid Wrench ...................... 127 foot pounds
Kano Kroil ......................... 106 foot pounds
ATF/Acetone mix...................... 53 foot pounds
The ATF/Acetone mix is a "home brew" mix of 50/50
automatic transmission
fluid and acetone. Note this "home brew" released bolts
better than any
commercial product in this one particular test.
Our local machinist group mixed up a batch, and we all
now use it with
equally good results.
Note also that Liquid Wrench is almost as good as Kroil
for 20% of the price.
ATF/Acetone mix is best, but you can also use ATF and
lacquer thinner in a
50/50 mix.
ATF = Any type of Automatic Transmission Fluid
RE: Homemade Penetrating Oil - Mayhem - 12-19-2012
I've seen this somewhere before but cannot recall where. I haven't tried it myself but I always find myself asking the same question: Why hasn't a commercial entity made and patented this already?
RE: Homemade Penetrating Oil - TomG - 12-19-2012
Thanks for posting this Ed. It looks like another bottle will soon be added to my lube collection.
Tom
RE: Homemade Penetrating Oil - sasquatch - 12-19-2012
Re: Liquid Wrench is almost as good:
Agree, i have used a lot of Liquid wrench over the years, it is my old standby.
The key to many of these penetrants is "Give it enough time to penetrate".
I found in many cases an hour or two is not enough, and following with repeated applications is important.
RE: Homemade Penetrating Oil - dallen - 12-19-2012
ED's Red has a few more things in it then just acetone and tranny fluid, they say its the same as Hoppies #9 solvent.
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RE: Homemade Penetrating Oil - Sunset Machine - 12-19-2012
I tried ATF and acetone once, it didn't work at all. They don't mix, like oil and water don't mix. The acetone creeps into the threads, not sure what the ATF does beside drip off. Seems silly to try it again.
GM makes/made a "heat riser lube" in a spray can. That stuff often works, maybe a tad better than Liquid Wrench (an old favorite of mine too). Stinks but it works. Another product I've had luck with is Loctite "Freeze & Release".
Last summer I had a pulley froze to a shaft. A rag, some wire, some soda and water, and a battery charger made it effortless.
RE: Homemade Penetrating Oil - EdK - 12-19-2012
(12-19-2012, 07:44 AM)TomG Wrote: Thanks for posting this Ed. It looks like another bottle will soon be added to my lube collection.
Tom
Tom,
Just make sure you don't use one of your beer bottles. Taking a swig of that stuff will definitely penetrate you in ways you don't want it to.
Ed
RE: Homemade Penetrating Oil - f350ca - 12-19-2012
I've been using the ATF Acetone mix for a few years. Has been working as good as any penetrating oil I've bought.
RE: Homemade Penetrating Oil - dallen - 12-19-2012
I think its more of a personal taste in oils and lubes more then ones better then the other, they all work to some extent.
RE: Homemade Penetrating Oil - mikecwik - 12-19-2012
I never thought those so called oils were capable of doing anything. I mean if you can soak a rusted part in them for weeks and not have the oil penetrate the surface rust how can it makes its way into a thread?
I was kinda experimenting into the matter last time someone was praising kroil but i never got motivated enough to try it. It's a little pricey!
Yes you can watch video of some company brand oil getting soaked virtually instantly through a rusted nut....vertical i guess is suppose to add to the sales pitch.
I find it to be something along the line of motor oil pitches. some companies will show you testing of how theirs out do someone elses but im not really sold on how they test it have much meaning to the engine.
It is probably why no penetrating oil company has ever done such testing. Or if anyone can show me some i am more than happy to see such things.