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RE: I NEED A Compressor - sasquatch - 12-08-2012
Good point about draining the oil!!
But don't like the sound of trying to start that compressor in those cold temps. Not good in my opinion.
RE: I NEED A Compressor - EdK - 12-08-2012
(12-08-2012, 06:44 PM)sasquatch Wrote: Good point about draining the oil!!
But don't like the sound of trying to start that compressor in those cold temps. Not good in my opinion.
I agree. It's going down the basement instead of the garage now.
Ed
RE: I NEED A Compressor - stevec - 12-08-2012
Don't drain the oil unless you suspect it some asian "fish oil". Bring it home lying down or vertical. By the time you get it wired up and minimal plumbed all will be good. I've done all sorts of gyrations to air compressors and the only caution is not to let condensation water back into the compressor head/ valves.
Enjoy!
RE: I NEED A Compressor - sasquatch - 12-08-2012
Re" Down into the basement now"!! Great sounds good!!
RE: I NEED A Compressor - ETC57 - 12-08-2012
Ed,
when you lay a oil bath piston engine on it side for any amount of time oil will seep past the rings, a piston style compressor is the same.
as for cold same as your car or lawn mower or snow blower, mabe a little lighter oil in the winter.
Jerry.
RE: I NEED A Compressor - EdK - 12-08-2012
Thanks guys. I'll just get it home and into the basement any way I can and not worry too much about the oil. Other than to check and make sure it has the proper amount.
Is copper good to use for air lines?
Ed
RE: I NEED A Compressor - starlight_tools - 12-08-2012
(12-08-2012, 08:52 PM)EdK Wrote: Thanks guys. I'll just get it home and into the basement any way I can and not worry too much about the oil. Other than to check and make sure it has the proper amount.
Is copper good to use for air lines?
Ed
Ed
Probably the compressor will not have oil in it when it arrives "new", but should have a bottle of oil with it and a tag over the plug that says to add oil before use. The main problem with transporting a compressor on its side is that the oil will leak out onto the ground, truck bed etc.
If you use synthetic oil you will get a better duty cycle and be able to operate in wider temperature extremes than if you use regular oil.
Now as far as operating the compressor indoors or in the garage etc,
Inside air in the house has a higher "moisture content" than outside air, which means that as the air is compressed a natural product of compressing the air is that the moisture which is held in the air, condenses to the point that it forms water droplets, which then turn into pools of water in the bottom of the tank. If the compressor is mounted in an outbuilding, or even outside, the air that is pulled in has a lower moisture content and thus the water collected will be a bit lower.
My compressor is mounted outside, under the stairs and it only has troubles starting if the weather gets really cold. Eventually, I plan to enclose and insulate that space but it will not be heated. Helps to keep the noise down as well. and outside keeps the noise out of the shop.
When you install the compressor, make sure you add a water separator to it. Note that the water separator will only work if the air has cooled, so it should be away from the tank. A 50 foot holse between the tank and the separator will allow the air to cool so that it can do its job.
Piping for compressed air should be copper or black pipe. Either works fine. Avoid plastic pipe as it gets brittle when cold and the flow of air will absorb heat from itmes and super cool them. Nothing worse than having a bomb explode because the piping got too cold.
Piping should be installed with a slope away from the compressor and at the end of the line a drop leg to a clean out valve. Each leg should be installed with an upwards facing "tee" that then routes back down with 2 90 deg elbows. This way any water in the pipes will drain toward the outlet and not as much will get carried into the tool.
Walter
RE: I NEED A Compressor - Mayhem - 12-09-2012
Walter has given you good advice there Ed. My compressor is in the shop but the air pickup is located outside. If you Google air line set up (or similar) you will find plenty of information and pictures showing the piping and outlet stations.
RE: I NEED A Compressor - stevec - 12-09-2012
(12-08-2012, 10:11 PM)starlight_tools Wrote: Inside air in the house has a higher "moisture content" than outside air,Depending where you are and what weather conditions exist outside.
Walter
RE: I NEED A Compressor - sasquatch - 12-09-2012
Stevec is correct, humidity can be much higher outside than inside at times, different locations of even where the compressor is sitting will change.