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RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - johnnyc14 - 07-17-2015
QUOTE "I was thinking of milling the slot wider and making a new pin. My mill in a homemade cnc router though and it doesn't like steel too much..."
Mark, where in Canada are you located? If you send the quill to me I will mill the slot to whatever dimension you like. All you would have to pay for is the shipping.
John
RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - turbo711 - 07-17-2015
Thanks Dallen and Edk. I am not familiar with this industrial wiring stuff. How do you guys know that they are the right ones? What is the difference between a CN or a CU prefix. I get the NO or NC aux relay thing, and the coil voltage, but what about the main contact arrangement? Can they be normally open or closed? If I get the exact replacement, then I can just wire it in, but if it is different, then I will have to figure out the complete circuit, and that would be a big pain.
Mark
RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - Vinny - 07-17-2015
NO = Normally Open
NC = Normally Closed
So yes, they can be normally open or closed.
RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - turbo711 - 07-17-2015
Hello Johnnyc14. I live in London Ontario. I appreciate the milling offer. The slot just has to be milled to make it straight again. No particular dimension. Then I can just make a wider pin to fit. Not sure if the shipping both ways would be more than it's worth... What do you think?
Mark
RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - krv3000 - 07-17-2015
hi just a tip if you is wonting to weld a crack in a peace that has a hole in it or a bit that's missing make a copper plug to fill the void as the welld will not stick to the copper
RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - stevec - 07-17-2015
Mark, I have done as krv3000 (Bob) has suggested. It was an aluminum casting that had a cracked off part of a threaded mounting ear.
I threaded a piece of copper to match the half threaded hole and took it to my aluminum welding wizard. He built up the rest of the "ear/tab" and when done and cooled down I unscrewed the copper piece and cleaned up the welding and the part was new again.
Just make sure the copper is smooth and not tapered to aid removal .
P.S. please add London Ont. to your profile so old geezers like me won't wonder where the hell you are in this tiny country of Canada you are.
Steve
RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - EdK - 07-17-2015
(07-17-2015, 05:15 PM)turbo711 Wrote: Thanks Dallen and Edk. I am not familiar with this industrial wiring stuff. How do you guys know that they are the right ones? What is the difference between a CN or a CU prefix. I get the NO or NC aux relay thing, and the coil voltage, but what about the main contact arrangement? Can they be normally open or closed? If I get the exact replacement, then I can just wire it in, but if it is different, then I will have to figure out the complete circuit, and that would be a big pain.
Mark
Mark,
I looked at the datasheets for both the CN and CU versions and I couldn't see any difference. They are both 24VAC coils and 25A normally open contacts so there's no reason either one wouldn't work. The main contacts need to be normally open since the two contactors on the left are what switches the motor direction. If they were normally closed they would short out. See the attached wiring schematic from the manual for my lathe. That might help show the need for normally open contacts.
Ed
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RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - johnnyc14 - 07-17-2015
(07-17-2015, 05:29 PM)turbo711 Wrote: Hello Johnnyc14. I live in London Ontario. I appreciate the milling offer. The slot just has to be milled to make it straight again. No particular dimension. Then I can just make a wider pin to fit. Not sure if the shipping both ways would be more than it's worth... What do you think?
Mark
Mark, if you can figure out what size package it will fit into and weigh it, you can go to the Canada Post website and determine the cost to ship it. My postal code is T8N4H6.
RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - turbo711 - 07-18-2015
Hello guys. The EZ weld tig wire is for welding copper as well. I think the only way to truly weld cast iron is with high nickel rod and preheat the part to over 500 degrees. The part is then welded and allowed to cool very slowly in sand or oven. Probably a preheat over 500 is even better. I am not prepared to attempt it for the crack that is there. I'll just end up making it worse. I can feel it....
I like the FactoryMation link as the contactors are cheap and look similar. I'm going to do some more research before I buy, to make myself feel good about it.
Hello John. I'll look into the package thing on Monday. I got a weekend of 12 hour nights to deal with. Thanks for the tip.
so long for now,
Mark
RE: Cantek 1440, Birmingham, Wilton CT 1440, and others Rebuild - EdK - 07-18-2015
(07-18-2015, 07:26 AM)turbo711 Wrote: I like the FactoryMation link as the contactors are cheap and look similar. I'm going to do some more research before I buy, to make myself feel good about it.
Mark,
Just remember you need two types of contactors. One with a normally open auxiliary contact and two with normally closed auxiliary contacts.
Ed