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RE: Moulding Flasks ,,, Steel - RobWilson - 02-26-2012
Thanks Lads
i much appreciate your comments and interest .Darren ,,,,, i remembered correctly 12" x16" ,, the good thing about steel flasks is if i say need a deeper cope or drag ,, i can just tack weld two together
Hi there Jerry ,,,,,,,,,,, i just took my time heating and bending the corners . I was expecting a bit flattering ,, but i got away with it this time .
Hi Ed ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I am with Tom on this one ,,, it welds just fine , but i would not use it structurally ,,,great for handles , tongs and the likes
Rob
RE: Moulding Flasks ,,, Steel - EdK - 03-02-2012
(02-26-2012, 04:44 PM)RobWilson Wrote: Hi Ed ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I am with Tom on this one ,,, it welds just fine , but i would not use it structurally ,,,great for handles , tongs and the likes
Rob
Thanks Tom & Rob. That's good information to know. So I won't be throwing out the 3' sections of 1/2" rebar that I have sitting in the garage. They just may come in handy for a future project.
Ed
RE: Moulding Flasks ,,, Steel - Rickabilly - 09-16-2012
Hello All,
As most of you know I did my apprenticeship and later trained to be an engineer and worked as a plant metallurgist in a Steelmaking plant, specifically a Rod and Bar producing integrated steelworks.
As a result I helped make a whole lotta Re-Bar, truth is Re-Bar isn't a standard thing across the world it is often made using varying grades of steel, a kind of we've got some of this or that, that is out of spec but will still be OK for Re-Bar as it meets the minimum 250MPa and elongation spec, and then there is the "Good Stuff" Temp Core, which has a hardish skin having been quenched in water/glycol coolant for just a few seconds while the centre or core is left very hot in order to self temper, this gives a stronger Re-Bar that you need less of to do the same job, Temp core is made only from very specific grades of steel and is damaged by welding or hot bending so if being used as Re-Bar these processes should not be used.
BUT, if you want to make anything else out of it weld to your hearts content, there is no problem at all and 90% of it is just good Ole fashioned mild steel, it needs no special care, and contrary to many of the urban myths it isn't a special grade that is corrosion resistant either, it is prevented from rusting only by the strong alkali nature of the cement that encases it, nor is it specifically designed to resist cold temperature embrittlement, it just doesn't get cold enough inside the concrete jacket, and the reason that many folks think it can't be welded is that most building standards say it should only be tied with wire, but this is only to prevent pure tensile loads being put through joined pieces in pretensioned bridge and girder castings, 90% of box grid reinforcing cages are factory welded so the steel itself is weldable.
I hope this helps,
Rick
RE: Moulding Flasks ,,, Steel - Rickabilly - 09-16-2012
Oh yes, What I first wanted to say was, Nice flasks Rob, really nice, really efficient in terms of sand use too, as the corners are rarely used lose them and rather than a batten tacked around the inside to hold sand the bead "wastes" far less sand.
Well done
Rick
RE: Moulding Flasks ,,, Steel - stevec - 09-16-2012
(03-02-2012, 08:00 PM)EdK Wrote: So I won't be throwing out the 3' sections of 1/2" rebar that I have sitting in the garage. They just may come in handy for a future project.Ed, I have adopted that theory as my life model.
Ed
Rick "it just doesn't get cold enough inside the concrete jacket" Maybe in "jolly old" it doesn't.
I'm not challenging you, just thinking of the next season here as it approaches.
Rob, great job
.
RE: Moulding Flasks ,,, Steel - Mayhem - 09-16-2012
Are you volunteering for a concrete jacket to test its insulation properties Steve?
RE: Moulding Flasks ,,, Steel - stevec - 09-16-2012
Nah, thanks for offering.
RE: Moulding Flasks ,,, Steel - Rickabilly - 09-16-2012
Of course temperature is relative when it comes to impact loading and impact loading too is greatly reduced as the concrete jacket greatly dampens most impacts, that might be relevant.
My point was that the composite construction of steel plus concrete is of greater importance than the actual properties of either the steel or the concrete used in any single case. but often folks think that the steel must be special to achieve what the composite construction does.
Regards
Rick