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RE: How to square up an angle plate - Mayhem - 05-01-2015
(05-01-2015, 01:17 PM)RobWilson. Wrote: Bolt it to another angle plate Darren
I would if I could Rob but I don't have another one. I'll PM you with my address, so you can drop me one into the post
RE: How to square up an angle plate - RobWilson - 05-01-2015
(05-01-2015, 02:41 PM)Mayhem Wrote:(05-01-2015, 01:17 PM)RobWilson. Wrote: Bolt it to another angle plate Darren
I would if I could Rob but I don't have another one. I'll PM you with my address, so you can drop me one into the post
LOL nee worries Darren ,
Any way good to see you making your own angle plate
, OK no angle plate , 
, mount your flattest lump of what ever material you have vertical in the machine vice and bolt it to that , instant angle plate Rob
RE: How to square up an angle plate - PixMan - 05-01-2015
How long/tall are the sides of your angle iron weldment?
Mounted in your vise should work, though you'd have to take it easy using the F2280 cutter because you'll only be holding onto a little less than 2" of the height.
I do love the beauty of Rob Wilson's work with the shaper, I just don't have enough time in the shop to ever wait for one to make a pass. Or, enough patience. Or both.
RE: How to square up an angle plate - Vinny - 05-01-2015
That's the beauty of a shaper. Set it up, start it and come back when it's done. Wish I had one, haven't used one since high school and we won't talk about how long ago that was.
RE: How to square up an angle plate - PixMan - 05-01-2015
True, but I can't bring myself to walk away from (or even turn my back on) a machine during a cut. Yes, I did do that on shapers back in trade high school, but got a scolding from the teacher for doing so. "What if the vise let go of the part?!"
RE: How to square up an angle plate - DaveH - 05-01-2015
I'm the same I don't leave a machine while it is running. Not even the band saw with the auto stop, because as an apprentice if you allowed the cut piece of metal to fall on the floor the whole of the tool room would bang on their work benches.
Plus if you are not next to the machine how will you stop it if something starts to go wrong, wait for the crash bang.
DaveH
RE: How to square up an angle plate - Dr Stan - 05-01-2015
Nice shaper work on the angle plates.
Another option is to hold the rough angle plate on the mill using a 2X4X6 block. Clamp the block to the table and then the weldament to the block. It would probably be a good idea to rough it out using the mill vice and a fly cutter.
If you do not already own the blocks it would be a good time to buy some. http://www.travers.com/31152-57-020-416?Category=UserSearch=blocks||Measuring%20%26%20Inspection||Sets or http://www.shars.com/products/measuring/layout-setup-tools/246-precision-block
If you do not have a fly cutter it would be a good time to make one.
RE: How to square up an angle plate - TomG - 05-01-2015
You can square it in your vise Darren.
Machine one side flat (the ones with the angle cut). Clamp that side to the table and machine the opposite side parallel to it. Now you can clamp the plate in the vise on the two machined sides, indicate the top (one of the square sides) parallel to the table and machine it flat. Now just rotate it 90º, indicate the previously machined side so it's perpendicular to the table and machine it flat and square to the adjoining side. When you indicate it, don't use the quill, but crank the table up and down. That way if the quill is out of tram, your angle plate won't be. You'll be copying the squareness of the machine into your angle plate.
Tom
RE: How to square up an angle plate - Vinny - 05-01-2015
Guys, I never said you need to ignore it. If it slips in the vise it's not gonna matter if you're there or not. Definitely keep an eye on it but you don't have to stand there and stare at it.
RE: How to square up an angle plate - RobWilson - 05-02-2015
(05-01-2015, 06:48 PM)Vinny Wrote: That's the beauty of a shaper. Set it up, start it and come back when it's done. Wish I had one, haven't used one since high school and we won't talk about how long ago that was.
Hi Lads ,not to go O/T ,,,, but
I am with Vinny on this one , life is way way to short to watch a machine on a slow finishing pass , cant think of anything more boring , (if someone is paying you to do so fare enough ) but in my small home hobby shop I often run a mill and a lathe at the same time , and there is no way in hell I will stand and watch a saw cutting its way through a 6"x4" lump of stainless .
The shaper is more than safe enough to leave on a finishing pass ,if setup correctly to run off the leadscrew . Aye its as slow as treacle but thats the beauty of the shaper , you can go do something else .
Rob